Wednesday, January 29, 2014

Competition for Div Seven Pedestrian Decks? Wahoo Decks Announces a New, All-in-One, Pre-fabricated Aluminum Balcony Product for Multifamily Residential Communities

I saw this press release from Wahoo Decks...they now have a balcony in a box package for multi-family projects using aluminum balconies instead of wood framed and plywood covered decks with a traffic coating over it. They are marketing it to developers and builders, you can't go down to Home Depot apparently and just pick one up...

Wahoo Decks Launches Wahoo Complete During the International Builders’ Show



Wahoo Decks announced today from the International Builders’ Show at Booth #C5350 the launch of its newest product, Wahoo Complete, a pre-fabricated aluminum balcony for use in multifamily residential communities.

This new product will bring a safe, sustainable and fire-proof option to market for developers of multifamily communities. The Wahoo pre-fabricated balconies include railing, substructure framing and decking, all in one. Developers have the option of two types of walking surfaces, AridDek aluminum decking or DryJoistEZ (U.S. Pat. No. 8,276,344) structural joists with traditional low-maintenance deck board options for the walking surface. Support is dependent on building design, options include either rod hung, knee-braced, post supports or cantilevered beams.

Like other decking products from Wahoo Decks, the Wahoo Complete balcony system is manufactured using 50% post industrial, post consumer scrap aluminum. All balconies are fire-proof, powder coated, marine grade aluminum and are manufactured and assembled in the U.S. Unique to Wahoo Decks, all balcony options are dry-below, meaning, no water, dirt or debris will fall to the balcony below.

Read the Rest of the Press Release Here...

Tell us what you think! Will these balcony systems threaten the use of conventional wood framed balconies on multi-family homes? 

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A Reader at Deck Builder Magazine's Forum Has an AZEK Deck Problem

One possibility is to install a Pedestrian Traffic Coating over the plywood deck, eliminating the need for an AZEK deck system to be placed over it. Concrete pedestrian decking will stand the heat and there is no problems with airflow like there is in this situation. 

What do you think? Comment here and tell us...


From Deck Builder Forums - AZEK DECKING PROBLEMS-SAGGING & LIFTING

I have 2 different problems with a deck that was finished with dark brown AZEK 5/4 x 6 deck boards. The decking is nailed to 2 x 4 ptl skid plates (laid flat) @ 16" o.c. that float on a rubber membrane. The membrane covers 3/4" plywood flooring that is supported by 2 x ptl floor joists. The location of the home is on a lake & it has many low e windows that are on the deck side of the house.

The first problem is sagging of the AZEK decking between the skid plates. Since the skid plates are laid flat, the decking is only spanning 12-1/2". The AZEK reps are blaming the dark color and the reflection of the sun from the lake & windows causing the decking to super heat & sag. Their recommendation is replacement of the decking with a lighter color. However the homeowner will not budge on the color.

The second problem is raising of the decking in a few locations.
It is probably a twisting or cupping of the skid plates that is causing the decking to lift up in spots. The AZEK reps want the skid plates fastened to the plywood through the rubber membrane.
The problem with this is there is a porch below that has ceiling fans & can lights in the ceiling/deck framing above. A leak would be a serious problem, therefore I don't want to fasten the skid plates down. Is there another material that could be used for the skid plates that would not twist or cup? Maybe if I had a better skid plate material, I could replace and/or double them & have less sag or totally eliminate the sag. Any ideas?

Read the replies, or reply yourself here at this link...

http://forums.deckmagazine.com/forums/showthread.php?721-AZEK-decking-problems-sagging-amp-lifting&utm_source=newsletter&utm_content=jump&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PRD_012814&day=2014-01-28






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Friday, January 24, 2014

JLC Live Attendees Rate My Portland Seminar - Turns Out They Loved It!

The results are in...and all the attendees who returned a speaker evaluation sheet feel basically the same way, with 86% rating my seminar as Excellent and 14% rated it as Good.

Here's what a few said about our seminar....

"...was great at answering a lot of questions. Very sharp. Happy I signed up for this class. Thank you!"

"Very good. Excellent experiences, organized and gave good specific recommendations."

"Solid presentation from an obviously experienced speaker. Well organized, professionally developed."

I'm very glad to hear these compliments and I also heard you loud and clear that you want more pictures! (That was about the only negative...

Sign up now for Providence! I'll see you on March 20th! See my evaluation here at Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/s/xclaasg9tbxvf2g/Speaker%20Evaluation%20Bill_Leys.pdf

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Thursday, January 16, 2014

TREX Details Settlement Funds for Claims on Moldy Decks

From Trex-Press Release on Settlement Details for Defective Trex decks

Found this at their website. 

WINCHESTER, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 18, 2013-- Trex Company, Inc. (NYSE:TREX), the world's largest manufacturer of high-performance wood-alternative decking and railing products, announced that on December 16, 2013, the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California granted final approval of a settlement that resolves a nationwide class action lawsuit alleging certain misrepresentations and defects in Trex's first-generation composite products relating to mold growth and color issues. The claim resolution process, the settlement agreement and class notice are available onwww.trex.com/legal/2013classactionsettlement.aspx.

Under the terms of the settlement, Trex will provide to qualified claimants a one-time cash payment or the opportunity to receive other relief, including a rebate certificate on its newer-generation shelled products (Trex Transcend® and Trex Enhance®). This relief is available for any qualified claimant who purchased first-generation Trex composite product betweenAugust 1, 2004 and August 27, 2013 having a certain level of mold growth, color fading or color variation, and who meets certain other requirements as set forth in the settlement agreement.

"We are pleased to have a final resolution of this matter, with terms we feel are fair to both Trex and our consumers," saidRonald W. Kaplan, chairman, president and CEO of Trex. "This settlement allows Trex to focus its attention on delivering our next generation of award-winning, high-performance outdoor living products."

The cost to Trex under the settlement is capped at $8.25 million plus $1.475 million in attorneys' fees to be paid to the Plaintiffs' counsel.

About Trex Company

Trex Company is the world's largest manufacturer of high performance wood-alternative decking and railing, with more than 20 years of product experience. Stocked in more than 6,000 retail locations worldwide, Trex outdoor living products offer a wide range of style options with fewer ongoing maintenance requirements than wood, as well as a truly environmentally responsible choice. For more information, visit trex.com. You also can follow Trex on Twitter (@Trex_Company) or Pinterest(trexcompany), "like" Trex on Facebook, or view product and demonstration videos on the brand's YouTube channel (TheTrexCo.).

Source: Trex Company

Media:
L.C. Williams & Associates
Alison Hamer or Lauren Platt
800/837-7123 or 312/565-3900
ahamer@lcwa.com or lplatt@lcwa.com
or
Investors
Lippert/Heilshorn & Associates
Harriet Fried, 212-838-3777
hfried@lhai.com


Do you have a Trex deck that is affected? Get your claim in ASAP. Tell us what your experiences have been with Trex decking products in the comment section. 


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Concrete Decor Article on Why Is My Deck Failing?

Hi Chris,

I opened my print version of Concrete Decor magazine today and read your article on the failing deck in Colorado. http://www.concretedecor.net/decorativeconcretearticles/vol-14-no-1-jan-2014/why-is-my-deck-overlay-failing-but-only-where-ite28099s-exposed-to-the-elements/

I have a consulting company and run a deck waterproofing advice site at www.deckexpert.com. I am also a contractor, my specialty is waterproofing plywood decks over living spaces and we do apply decorative finishes to them as well. Here's one of a Desert Crete decking system with a faux flagstone template and then stamped...

First I have to disagree with your statement that transition layers such as mortar beds or cement board is mandatory when transitioning from plywood flooring/decking to a cement based overlay. There are many manufacturer's of cement and lath based decking systems- some of whom have taken the time trouble and expense of testing their materials under ASTM protocols at laboratories that are credentialed/approved by ICC-ES/UL etc. 

The manufacturer's of these tested and evaluated products have ICC-ES Reports under Div 7 Pedestrian Traffic Coatings  http://www.icc-es.org/Reports/index.cfm?csi_id=301&view_details. Note, not all the systems listed here are concrete based...

None of these manufacturer's, if you spoke with them would tell you to install a mortar bed or cement board on or under their systems. We can use their cements to slope a deck to get a 1/4" per foot of fall as all low slope roof decks must be sloped to drain and meet code requirements. 

If you read a couple of the reports, you'll see there are two basic premises for assembling these concrete based systems. 

The less expensive/less labor intensive systems are assembled after flashing the deck to wall and deck edges and installing a door pan. Once that is accomplished, the system is assembled by stapling 2.5# galvanized flat metal lath down, troweling in a polymer modified cement, letting it dry and then troweling on a secondary layer of modified cement and then finally a finish whether it's a simple knockdown pattern or a faux tile finish. 

One thing I do see in the decking/waterproofing industry is the methods manufacturer's use to gain applicators. Several use "training sessions" at the White Caps, decorative concrete wholesale stores etc that are open to anyone and everyone who is thinking about becoming an installer. Big profits, easy solutions, spend 3 or 4 hours watching us ...and bada bing bada bang, you're an applicator. Other firms use the approach of approving applicators who have experience and verifiable licenses insurance and staff. In your case, only God knows what type of actual experience that a applicator had, but I don't have good vibes as it stands h=judging from the pics.  A prime target of some firms for new applicators of their waterproofing systems is to find decorative contractors who are looking to add to their repertoire. 

The more expensive systems utilize a resin and fiberglass layer over the lath and base coat, then a screed coat then texture and paint or a faux finish can go on. Desert Crete, Pli-Dek, Excellent Coatings are  a few who utilize the fiberglass/resin as a standard assembly method. 

The key to any of these deck systems lasting, aside from inspecting and maintaining/repairing as needed, one is that the framing/substrate system HAS to be installed to the highest standards possible. That means using 1 1/8" plywood instead of 5/8" plywood (which is the minimum allowed by most manufacturer's, subject to intended use) over 2x10 or 2x12" joists 12" OC instead of 2x8" joists 16" OC. That means sloping the deck in the framing and well, there's so much to know I did a 2 hour powerpoint seminar on the subject at JLC LIVE in Portland in December and will do the same in Providence RI in March this year...
This is the link to my dropbox JLC presentation if you'd like to download/view it. 

Once the deck system is built using the best possible construction methods and materials, then the waterproofing contractor needs to install his/her system to the highest standards possible as well. 

I make my living off fixing my competitors mistakes and see failures almost everyday. It is entirely possible that the system in place is in fact a bonafide deck waterproofing system. Without seeing a contract/proposal or manufacurer's literature, I just don't know. 

Looking at the pictures and reading your article points to a few possibilities as to where the water intrusion issues started. The first pic with the edge shows clearly that there is no drip edge flashing terminating the coating. Instead the installers mistake was to return the decking/faux finish down the fascia. The expansion contraction of the different wood materials would eventually split the coating just like it has. 

In the same picture, the railing penetration is immediately a suspect too. Often when we demo these failed decks,blocking  under the railing penetration is usually non existent or done so poorly that the wood has split or been driven down as to be useless. We hate penetrations in decks, because that's usually where they leak, eventually. The railing post will move when leaned on; even though railings must hold 200#s, they always move, creating stress and cracks in the materials. 

You are correct, OSB/chip board etc for exterior decks is a big no! Aside from the issues you mention OSB is not approved by any manufacturer for use under any deck system that I know of. As many of these concrete based systems also have a Class A fire resistant rating as a roofing system, they have to use plywood as a condition of that fire rating approval. 
  
In the other pictures I noticed right off that the column on the step above the failed area appears to be in direct contact with the deck, without a weep screed breaking the stucco drainage plane from the deck. I also see a railing connection through the faux finish area as well as at the step (cant tell if it's the same area or a different one). 

I concur with your assessment that the whole deck be torn off. Any repair attempts would be just that, repair attempts and leaving unknown materials and substandard materials in will just leave a ticking time bomb of when/if it will fail questions. 

The owners of the home need to find  3 trades, a highly comptetent framer, a highly competent waterproofer and then a highly competent faux finish concrete decorative applicator. 

Here's a couple links to some Desert Crete jobs for you to read...



Thank you!

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Friday, January 10, 2014

You wouldn't respond to a brain surgeons ad with this byline, so why would you look for a contractor with a similar byline?

This about sums it up...



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